05.18b The Geneva Convention and Interrogation. The Wall Street Journal makes the interesting point that it is a violation of the Geneva Convention to interrogate enemy prisoners *at all*-- whether using force or not. Under the Geneva Convention, soldiers are not to be asked about past or present military operations. They are not like civilian criminals; you cannot say, "We'll let you go if you tell us who was the mastermind behind the operation and where he is hiding."

Even tempting detainees who are POWs with a candy bar to answer questions beyond name, rank and serial number violates the Third Geneva Convention. As for his hypothetical "American citizen," he or she might benefit from the civilian protections of the Fourth Geneva Convention depending on circumstances.

These distinctions matter, because the Geneva Conventions are about more than subjective opinions of what constitutes "humane" treatment. The Conventions themselves make very clear distinctions between POWs and others; and it's clear that the terrorists held at Guantanamo don't meet the criteria spelled out in the Third Geneva Convention for designation as POWs. Perhaps Mr. Reed's constituents would like to know that under the standard he wants imposed, even al Qaeda detainees would be off-limits to all but pro forma interrogation.

A reading would also inform the Senator that--apart from Iraqi soldiers detained in uniform and certain members of Saddam Hussein's chain of command--most Iraqi detainees are arrested as civilians and fall under the protection not of the Third Geneva Convention but of the Fourth.

The Fourth allows--indeed obliges--an occupying power to use its discretion within wide parameters to maintain law and order (Article 64), and contains no specific restriction on interrogation, other than saying that "protected persons" not be subjected to "physical or moral coercion" (Article 31). But--note well--protected persons are defined as "persons taking no active part in the hostilities" (Article 3).

In other words, the Geneva Conventions do not speak specifically to the interrogation treatment of non-uniformed Baathist or jihadi guerrillas detained in connection with attacks on U.S. forces or Iraqi civilians. Except that the Fourth does permit us to execute them (Article 68)--a practice often seen in the less politically correct wars of years past.

Thus, anyone who thinks we should apply the best-known, Third, Geneva Convention to terrorists also must say that the FBI should not ask them any questions, and the U.S. attorneys should not offer them any plea bargains. But of course the Third Geneva Convention does not apply to anyone who was not captured in uniform (loosely speaking-- an "Al Qaeda" T-shirt would suffice). By implication, it allows us to use "physical and moral coercion" against civilians taking active part in hostilities against us. And it explicitly allows us to hang anyone caught shooting at us while not in uniform, in accordance with longstanding rules of war. Just remember Nathan Hale and Major Andre in our own Revolutionary War, shot for spying without objection (but with great regret) from the opposing side. ... [in full at 04.05.18b.htm]

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